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Mark K Bilbo  
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From: Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo>
Date: 26 Jul 2010 13:01:10 GMT
Local: Mon, Jul 26 2010 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons

Yeah, watching videos over and over and Seeing Significant Things.

Yikes...

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From: Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo>
Date: 26 Jul 2010 13:04:54 GMT
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Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons

No, Seon. Yeah, I was being sarcastic but you are flat wrong when you say
"the experts don't know". While it's true history cannot be known
absolutely (sans time travel), experts who have actual knowledge *did*
put forth explanation based on study.

There's just no "there" there. The truthers are playing a variant of "god
of the gaps". Since we cannot know history with absolute certainty,
there's *always* room to shove uncertainty and a belief system. Well,
room for some. A determined some.

As best it is possible to know, we do know. And the only people I see
"questioning" are inexperienced lay people who have some odd agenda to
grind.

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From: Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo>
Date: 26 Jul 2010 13:09:22 GMT
Local: Mon, Jul 26 2010 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:38:01 +1000, Seon wrote:
> But the NIST report doesn't really debunk Barry Jennings testimony...

TESTIMONY?

Seon, are you aware that memory is reconstructive? We don't carry
recording devices around in our heads. We *reconstruct* memories each and
every time we recall them.

This is why doing idiotic things like "lie detector tests" (which don't
really exist, it's psuedo-science) on UFO abductees is silly. They have
quite firmly reconstructed a memory and it *is* a memory. They are
telling "the truth" so far as they know it.

You should read about False Memory Syndrome. People have been sent to
jail for things that *never* *happened*.

"Testimony" is for religion, not science. One hopes we'll be able to
drive it out of our courts in time...

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From: Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo>
Date: 26 Jul 2010 13:10:34 GMT
Local: Mon, Jul 26 2010 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:23:08 +1000, Seon wrote:
> "Allan Matthews" <allan_matth...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.26b6d31d698774b79897b6@news.giganews.com...
>> In article <NuWdnQkhqv5wm9DRnZ2dnUVZ_tydn...@westnet.com.au>,
>> s...@iinet.net.au says...

>>> "GovShill" <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1b20d9c5-0301-4d52-

bc72-5f92a1d25...@f20g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

How 'bout you tell us?

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From: ScienceW...@Apikoros.Org (ScienceWins)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:19:20 GMT
Local: Mon, Jul 26 2010 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:01:58 +1000, Seon wrote:
>> And neither do truthers which is why I want a independent investigation.
>That was done some years ago.

Not legitimately, it wasn't. The Bush regime allowed Saudi family
terrorists to escape being interrogated even though aircraft were
grounded for actual American citizens. There was never any
investigation in to the events of 911 nor the aftermath, it was
whitewashed.

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From: Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:33:36 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Jul 26 2010 5:33 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
Responding to BDK:

[...]

>> BTW: What happened to those wings then? Anybody found them yet?

>> Oh, right. They "just evaporated" didn't they.  %)

> No, they followed into the hole, as has always been claimed. Who claimed
> they "evaporated"? Maybe people on drugs or that should be on drugs?

I repeat,

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-hahahahaha!

So where did the /engines/ go then?

Explain the maths on /that/ one.

Oh! And debunk the pentalawn stuff too! (Heh!)

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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:47:22 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 26 2010 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <77adnXdRHc_R0dDRnZ2dnUVZ_gudn...@westnet.com.au>,
s...@iinet.net.au says...

For fuck sake's Seon, how many times will you ignore that buildings will
make amazingly loud noises when they suffer structural damage? Sounds
that some people will call "explosions", just as some people called the
pipes banging in the building I used to work at, explosions.

I think you're back on those pills you found on the sidewalk, aren't
you?
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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:55:24 -0400
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Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <frWdnTPFaNPrz9DRnZ2dnUVZ_vOdn...@westnet.com.au>,
s...@iinet.net.au says...

Again, you don't understand how much of the real world works. That's
obvious from many of your posts.

...

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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:57:05 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 26 2010 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <8b5ffmFe4i...@mid.individual.net>, gm...@com.mkbilbo says...

Nicely put! But I'm sure Seon will keep having "questions".
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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:58:08 -0400
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Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <8b5fqaFe4i...@mid.individual.net>, gm...@com.mkbilbo says...

You're gonna make his head spin!
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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:02:48 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 26 2010 7:02 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <pan.2010.07.26.15.36...@dasteem.invalid>,
l...@dasteem.invalid says...

You need to work on that.

> So where did the /engines/ go then?

> Explain the maths on /that/ one.

> Oh! And debunk the pentalawn stuff too! (Heh!)

Where did they go? Nowhere, there are pics of them online. Where did you
think they went? Transported aboard the Klingon battle cruiser in sync
orbit over D.C. that sunny day?

Maths? Are you talking about "meth"?

What "pentalawn stuff" are you babbling about, Mikey?

Stop buying the kookpages, Mikey. You'll turn into Seon if you aren't
careful. That would be a damn shame.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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From: Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:51:36 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Jul 27 2010 12:51 am
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
Responding to BDK:

Er, /you/ made the claims here, and you don't get a legitimate bwahaha
until you quit with the kook squid-ink escape manouver stuff, pretending
you don't know what the questions are, and answer them. You, of all
people, should know better than that.

So, go research "pentalawn", and come back and explain how its all wrong.

Waiting...  :)

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From: Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo>
Date: 26 Jul 2010 23:52:36 GMT
Local: Tues, Jul 27 2010 1:52 am
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:19:20 +0000, ScienceWins wrote:
> Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:01:58 +1000, Seon wrote:
>>> And neither do truthers which is why I want a independent
>>> investigation.
>>That was done some years ago.

> Not legitimately, it wasn't. The Bush regime allowed Saudi family
> terrorists to escape being interrogated even though aircraft were
> grounded for actual American citizens. There was never any investigation
> in to the events of 911 nor the aftermath, it was whitewashed.

No, no, not the political side, the technical size. The NIST reports
about the buildings, planes, and all is something wholly other than the
political mess.

In which Saudi Arabia was *so* redacted...

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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:40:22 -0400
Local: Tues, Jul 27 2010 8:40 am
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <pan.2010.07.26.22.54...@dasteem.invalid>,
l...@dasteem.invalid says...

Are you fucking kidding me? Really? You really believe something
"special" happened at the pentagon and the lawn wasn't burned because of
it?

Honestly, I thought that shit was too stupid for all but the biggest
loons to take seriously. I guess either you're a bigger loon than I
thought. I had forgotten all about it. Really fucking dumb shit, even
for kooks to swallow, but apparently you do.
So why do you think the lawn wasn't substantially burned?

Because? Because a "missile" hit the pentagon? Because a bomb went off
in the pentagon? And there was no plane that hit it?

Or could it just be not much of the lawn was damaged because the plane
didn't really hit the lawn?

Please take a step back from the edge Mikey.

The edge of total kooktardery.  

You wouldn't, or maybe at this point, shouldn't want to live that way.

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From: "Seon" <s...@iinet.net.au>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:56:16 +1000
Local: Tues, Jul 27 2010 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons

"BDK" <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote in message

news:MPG.26b8495ed166efe198c5a8@news.buckeye-express.com...

Um all the articles I posted in this thread have been from the mainstream
media. Ok so I posted one from prison planet but that was a interview and it
happened, you can even listen to it somewhere.

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From: Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:05:41 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Jul 27 2010 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
Responding to BDK:

WHOAH THERE NEDDY!

/You/ made the claims here, not me. All I'm doing it taking the piss (a
popular pastime around these parts, I'm sure you'll agree) to see if you
can back 'em up, which its looking as if we've found /your/ favorite
hobbyhorse here, not mine.

I "believe" /nothing/ here, including the "sinks in shallow water"
official stuff that you appear to be so enamoured of.

Put up, or...?   %)

(So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)

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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:24:44 -0400
Local: Tues, Jul 27 2010 10:24 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <pan.2010.07.27.15.08...@dasteem.invalid>,
l...@dasteem.invalid says...

You're the one asking about the engines and nonsense like that when
there's plenty of pics of them out there, Mikey.

> All I'm doing it taking the piss (a
> popular pastime around these parts, I'm sure you'll agree) to see if you
> can back 'em up, which its looking as if we've found /your/ favorite
> hobbyhorse here, not mine.

WTF?

> I "believe" /nothing/ here, including the "sinks in shallow water"
> official stuff that you appear to be so enamoured of.

Sinks in shallow water? It's alcohol, isn't it? Stop.

> Put up, or...?   %)

> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)

Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be honest,
I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of kookpages. But
sadly, not all of them are.

You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.
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From: Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:06:05 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Jul 28 2010 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
Responding to BDK:

[...]

>> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)

> Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be honest,
> I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of kookpages. But
> sadly, not all of them are.

> You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.

Oops! The classic duck'n'dodge technique there!

C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.

All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/
claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target material
I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. Nobody is
claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that finger about, and
GET ON WITH IT!

You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?

As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?

That'd be just plain kooky, wouldn't it?  ;)

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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:22:43 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 29 2010 5:22 am
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <pan.2010.07.28.21.09...@dasteem.invalid>,
l...@dasteem.invalid says...

Que?

> C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.

Que?

> All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/
> claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target material
> I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. Nobody is
> claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that finger about, and
> GET ON WITH IT!

Que pasa?

> You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?

Que?

> As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?

Que?

> That'd be just plain kooky, wouldn't it?  ;)

Keep on drinkin' the kook aid...

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:52:07 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Jul 29 2010 11:52 am
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
Responding to BDK:

C'MAH DUDE! Your letting the side down!

I just threw you a straight ball, and you MISSED IT!

Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!

(Es sobre tiempo que usted paró el hacer tanto de ruido sobre kooks si
usted no pueda hace una pausa sus propias demandas. Esto apenas le hace a
otro kook, y le reduce al mismo nivel que texto-a-rectoviento los
generadores como sus amigos en línea que intentamos sin mencionar la
compañía descortesa.)

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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:32:51 -0400
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Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <pan.2010.07.29.09.55...@dasteem.invalid>,
l...@dasteem.invalid says...

Was I at bat?

> Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!

When I think about Pentalawn, I just laugh.

> (Es sobre tiempo que usted paró el hacer tanto de ruido sobre kooks si
> usted no pueda hace una pausa sus propias demandas. Esto apenas le hace a
> otro kook, y le reduce al mismo nivel que texto-a-rectoviento los
> generadores como sus amigos en línea que intentamos sin mencionar la
> compañía descortesa.)

No habla Espanol...
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From: Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:49:48 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Jul 29 2010 7:49 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
Responding to BDK:

Didn't you get the memo?

>> Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!

> When I think about Pentalawn, I just laugh.

You're supposed to. But then you're supposed to /explain why/.

>> (Es sobre tiempo que usted paró el hacer tanto de ruido sobre kooks si
>> usted no pueda hace una pausa sus propias demandas. Esto apenas le hace
>> a otro kook, y le reduce al mismo nivel que texto-a-rectoviento los
>> generadores como sus amigos en línea que intentamos sin mencionar la
>> compañía descortesa.)

> No habla Espanol...

Eso es muy fácil para que usted diga!

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BDK  
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 More options Jul 30, 4:02 am
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From: BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:02:43 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2010 4:02 am
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
In article <pan.2010.07.29.17.52...@dasteem.invalid>,
l...@dasteem.invalid says...

Nope, I don't subscribe to any of the troofer newsletters.

> >> Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!

> > When I think about Pentalawn, I just laugh.

> You're supposed to. But then you're supposed to /explain why/.

Really? Why bother? It's so obvious, anyone but a true believer in the
911 cult should know why.

No habla Espaol. No habla Ingles. No habla de Kookinese!

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 More options Jul 30, 5:55 am
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From: "Seon" <s...@iinet.net.au>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:55:07 +1000
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2010 5:55 am
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons

"BDK" <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote in message

news:MPG.26bbfccb82431e0d98c5b8@news.buckeye-express.com...

You mean the cult where if anyone dares question the official story even
though they say flight 77 hit the pentagon and that WTC 1 and 2 were brought
down because a freakin plane flew into them they are called a "kook" ie un
believer or heratic? Or you "give up" on them? I am staying well away from
that cult. But then I'm staying away from the cult where people who believe
the official story like I do are called shills, Jews, reptilians, Bush
supporters, Jesuites um did I miss anything?

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From: Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:54:32 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Jul 30 2010 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: 911 "truther" cu7ltloons
Responding to BDK:

[...]

>> > When I think about Pentalawn, I just laugh.

>> You're supposed to. But then you're supposed to /explain why/.

> Really? Why bother? It's so obvious, anyone but a true believer in the
> 911 cult should know why.

Says the true believer in the "History according to the GOP" version.

=[FAIL]

No cake for /you/ tonight m'boy!  >:(

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