On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:21:26 -0400, BDK wrote: > In article <8b461qFfg...@mid.individual.net>, gm...@com.mkbilbo says... >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:58:52 +1000, Seon wrote:
>> > "Mark K Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message >> > news:8b395uFvrgU27@mid.individual.net... >> >> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:26:57 -0700, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> >>> On 25 Jul 2010 16:20:03 GMT, Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> The 911 "truther" cultloons continue to spew their frothingly >> >>>>>>>>> insane cult copnspiracy lunacy, trying to pretend that the >> >>>>>>>>> Bush regime's crimes against humanity and treason against >> >>>>>>>>> America are worse than they actually were -- as if the >> >>>>>>>>> Christanic terrorists' crimes weren't bad enough.
>> >>>>>>>>> --- >> >>>>>>>>> Does belief in astrology cause insanity? >> >>>>>>>>> http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm >> >>>>>>>>> The Holy Eucharist: Swallow the Leader. -- Kagin
>> >>>>>>>> The faith of many in the cult remains strong, waiting for the >> >>>>>>>> day, it all "breaks open", and the "truth" finally comes out. >> >>>>>>>> Darth Cheney and his apprentice Darth Bush are led off to jail >> >>>>>>>> in shackles, and sent away to rot.
>> >>>>>>>> It's almost 9 years, yet they still cling to the hope it's all >> >>>>>>>> going to happen. But Christians still think Jesus is coming >> >>>>>>>> back, so the 911 kooks have a long way to go.
>> >>>>>>> Why is asking questions a "cult?" and it's not blind faith. How >> >>>>>>> is it any different from someone who believes the official >> >>>>>>> version without questioning it or even looking into it? I >> >>>>>>> believe Binladen did it but I also have questions...does that >> >>>>>>> make me a cultist?
>> >>>>>> Because they aren't "asking questions". They believe in their >> >>>>>> proposition no matter what information is presented, no matter >> >>>>>> how many times their "questions" are answer, no matter how >> >>>>>> ludicrous they have to be to get to where they want to go. They >> >>>>>> aren't "looking into" anything. They have a faith position >> >>>>>> they'll defend against anything that threatens it.
>> >>>>>> Including attacking anybody who questions *them*. They *hate* >> >>>>>> being questioned. I know, I've run into them many times online. >> >>>>>> They react with more hostility, faster than any theist troll. >> >>>>>> It's really... amazing.
>> >>>>>> Not to mention, the proposition is ludicrous on its face. If our >> >>>>>> government or elements within are capable of conspiracy on that >> >>>>>> scale, you can't know anything.
>> >>>>> Just because someone answers a question doesn't mean that answer >> >>>>> is true. And you can't stand people from questioning 911 and you >> >>>>> call anyone who does a "kook" or a "cultist" so isn't that just >> >>>>> as bad?
>> >>>>They're not questioning Seon. They have a belief they are >> >>>>determined to confirm. And nothing will get in their way. They have >> >>>>The Answer and anybody who disagrees is lying.
>> >>>>It's a cult. Shrug.
>> >>>>> I encourage people from asking questions, even if they are >> >>>>> stupid. We need to so we can be sure what is going on and force >> >>>>> people to investigate 911 for themselves. Plus isn't it a >> >>>>> democracy anyway?
>> >>>>Being a democracy doesn't qualify anybody to investigate >> >>>>everything. *I* don't the time to go back to school, spend years in >> >>>>multiple disciplines, work in the fields for years, and gain the >> >>>>experience, credentials, and expertise necessary to truly >> >>>>*investigate* this matter.
>> >>> The problem is that when there are questions that aren't answered >> >>> satisfactorily, people make up their own answers. And if they are >> >>> eventually answered, it is too late to change their minds.
>> >> I've read big chunks of what the experts had to say. There *are* a >> >> lot of satisfactory answers.
>> >> Truthers don't generally read any of that. It's "all lies" of >> >> course. Because they, and they alone, know... The Truth...
>> > The trouble is even the experts don't know exactly how WTC7 fell.
>> You mean the report the NIST issued on WTC 7 doesn't exist? I did not >> know that. I had this weird idea that experts with experience and >> credentials have studied this event from one end to the other and >> issued reports with their conclusions.
>> Silly me. I should go to YouTube and watch videos instead!
> Yes, those videos will tell you the "real story". Definitely.
> The real story being that the people who posted them aren't hitting on > all cylinders.
Yeah, watching videos over and over and Seeing Significant Things.
Yikes...
-- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing"
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:22:18 +1000, Seon wrote: > "BDK" <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.26b6d74b439ecc3298c59a@news.buckeye-express.com... >> In article <8b461qFfg...@mid.individual.net>, gm...@com.mkbilbo says... >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:58:52 +1000, Seon wrote:
>>> > "Mark K Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message >>> > news:8b395uFvrgU27@mid.individual.net... >>> >> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:26:57 -0700, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>>> >>> On 25 Jul 2010 16:20:03 GMT, Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo> >>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> The 911 "truther" cultloons continue to spew their >>> >>>>>>>>> frothingly insane cult copnspiracy lunacy, trying to pretend >>> >>>>>>>>> that the Bush regime's crimes against humanity and treason >>> >>>>>>>>> against America are >>> >>>>>>>>> worse than they actually were -- as if the Christanic >>> >>>>>>>>> terrorists' crimes weren't bad enough.
>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>> >>>>>>>>> Does belief in astrology cause insanity? >>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm >>> >>>>>>>>> The Holy Eucharist: Swallow the Leader. -- Kagin
>>> >>>>>>>> The faith of many in the cult remains strong, waiting for the >>> >>>>>>>> day, it all "breaks open", and the "truth" finally comes out. >>> >>>>>>>> Darth Cheney and his apprentice Darth Bush are led off to >>> >>>>>>>> jail in >>> >>>>>>>> shackles, and sent away to rot.
>>> >>>>>>>> It's almost 9 years, yet they still cling to the hope it's >>> >>>>>>>> all going to happen. But Christians still think Jesus is >>> >>>>>>>> coming back, >>> >>>>>>>> so the 911 kooks have a long way to go.
>>> >>>>>>> Why is asking questions a "cult?" and it's not blind faith. >>> >>>>>>> How is >>> >>>>>>> it any different from someone who believes the official >>> >>>>>>> version without questioning it or even looking into it? I >>> >>>>>>> believe Binladen >>> >>>>>>> did it but I also have questions...does that make me a >>> >>>>>>> cultist?
>>> >>>>>> Because they aren't "asking questions". They believe in their >>> >>>>>> proposition no matter what information is presented, no matter >>> >>>>>> how many times their "questions" are answer, no matter how >>> >>>>>> ludicrous they have to be to get to where they want to go. They >>> >>>>>> aren't "looking into" anything. They have a faith position >>> >>>>>> they'll defend against anything that threatens it.
>>> >>>>>> Including attacking anybody who questions *them*. They *hate* >>> >>>>>> being >>> >>>>>> questioned. I know, I've run into them many times online. They >>> >>>>>> react with more hostility, faster than any theist troll. It's >>> >>>>>> really... amazing.
>>> >>>>>> Not to mention, the proposition is ludicrous on its face. If >>> >>>>>> our government or elements within are capable of conspiracy on >>> >>>>>> that scale, you can't know anything.
>>> >>>>> Just because someone answers a question doesn't mean that answer >>> >>>>> is true. And you can't stand people from questioning 911 and you >>> >>>>> call anyone who does a "kook" or a "cultist" so isn't that just >>> >>>>> as bad?
>>> >>>>They're not questioning Seon. They have a belief they are >>> >>>>determined to confirm. And nothing will get in their way. They >>> >>>>have The Answer and anybody who disagrees is lying.
>>> >>>>It's a cult. Shrug.
>>> >>>>> I encourage people from asking questions, even if they are >>> >>>>> stupid. We need to so we can be sure what is going on and force >>> >>>>> people to investigate 911 for themselves. Plus isn't it a >>> >>>>> democracy anyway?
>>> >>>>Being a democracy doesn't qualify anybody to investigate >>> >>>>everything. *I* don't the time to go back to school, spend years >>> >>>>in multiple disciplines, work in the fields for years, and gain >>> >>>>the experience, credentials, and expertise necessary to truly >>> >>>>*investigate* this matter.
>>> >>> The problem is that when there are questions that aren't answered >>> >>> satisfactorily, people make up their own answers. And if they are >>> >>> eventually answered, it is too late to change their minds.
>>> >> I've read big chunks of what the experts had to say. There *are* a >>> >> lot of satisfactory answers.
>>> >> Truthers don't generally read any of that. It's "all lies" of >>> >> course. Because they, and they alone, know... The Truth...
>>> > The trouble is even the experts don't know exactly how WTC7 fell.
>>> You mean the report the NIST issued on WTC 7 doesn't exist? I did not >>> know that. I had this weird idea that experts with experience and >>> credentials have studied this event from one end to the other and >>> issued reports with their conclusions.
> Wow that's total disinfo. I never said WTC7 and the NIST report exist > and not one conspiracy theorist has suggested they don't.
No, Seon. Yeah, I was being sarcastic but you are flat wrong when you say "the experts don't know". While it's true history cannot be known absolutely (sans time travel), experts who have actual knowledge *did* put forth explanation based on study.
There's just no "there" there. The truthers are playing a variant of "god of the gaps". Since we cannot know history with absolute certainty, there's *always* room to shove uncertainty and a belief system. Well, room for some. A determined some.
As best it is possible to know, we do know. And the only people I see "questioning" are inexperienced lay people who have some odd agenda to grind.
-- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the ones that need help?"
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:38:01 +1000, Seon wrote: > But the NIST report doesn't really debunk Barry Jennings testimony...
TESTIMONY?
Seon, are you aware that memory is reconstructive? We don't carry recording devices around in our heads. We *reconstruct* memories each and every time we recall them.
This is why doing idiotic things like "lie detector tests" (which don't really exist, it's psuedo-science) on UFO abductees is silly. They have quite firmly reconstructed a memory and it *is* a memory. They are telling "the truth" so far as they know it.
You should read about False Memory Syndrome. People have been sent to jail for things that *never* *happened*.
"Testimony" is for religion, not science. One hopes we'll be able to drive it out of our courts in time...
-- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
>>> > On Jul 26, 10:01 am, "Seon" <s...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> >> I have when you disagree with them your a shill or a Jew or >>> >> whatever group >>> >> they hate. The trouble is the "experts" don't answer all the >>> >> questions, >>> >> sure >>> >> the 911 commission helped and i think it did good work dispelling >>> >> some of >>> >> the myths and the NIST report helps as well but I still don't know >>> >> how WTC7 >>> >> exactly fell.
>>> > Why is *exactly* how it fell important to you?
>>> What are you doing in this neck of the woods? The way it fell will >>> show why >>> it fell.
>> It fell because it was too structurally compromised by the fire and >> weight of debris to remain standing.
> Is that what the NIST report said?
How 'bout you tell us?
-- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to believe in him, then he should know what would prove his existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason to believe in him."
>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:01:58 +1000, Seon wrote: >> And neither do truthers which is why I want a independent investigation. >That was done some years ago.
Not legitimately, it wasn't. The Bush regime allowed Saudi family terrorists to escape being interrogated even though aircraft were grounded for actual American citizens. There was never any investigation in to the events of 911 nor the aftermath, it was whitewashed.
> >> >> "Mark K Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message > >> >> news:8b395uFvrgU27@mid.individual.net... > >> >> > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:26:57 -0700, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> >> >> >> On 25 Jul 2010 16:20:03 GMT, Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo> > >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>> The 911 "truther" cultloons continue to spew their frothingly > >> >> >>>>>>>> insane cult copnspiracy lunacy, trying to pretend that the > >> >> >>>>>>>> Bush > >> >> >>>>>>>> regime's crimes against humanity and treason against America > >> >> >>>>>>>> are > >> >> >>>>>>>> worse than they actually were -- as if the Christanic > >> >> >>>>>>>> terrorists' > >> >> >>>>>>>> crimes weren't bad enough.
> >> >> >>>>>>>> --- > >> >> >>>>>>>> Does belief in astrology cause insanity? > >> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm > >> >> >>>>>>>> The Holy Eucharist: Swallow the Leader. -- Kagin
> >> >> >>>>>>> The faith of many in the cult remains strong, waiting for the > >> >> >>>>>>> day, > >> >> >>>>>>> it all "breaks open", and the "truth" finally comes out. Darth > >> >> >>>>>>> Cheney and his apprentice Darth Bush are led off to jail in > >> >> >>>>>>> shackles, and sent away to rot.
> >> >> >>>>>>> It's almost 9 years, yet they still cling to the hope it's all > >> >> >>>>>>> going to happen. But Christians still think Jesus is coming > >> >> >>>>>>> back, > >> >> >>>>>>> so the 911 kooks have a long way to go.
> >> >> >>>>>> Why is asking questions a "cult?" and it's not blind faith. How > >> >> >>>>>> is > >> >> >>>>>> it any different from someone who believes the official version > >> >> >>>>>> without questioning it or even looking into it? I believe > >> >> >>>>>> Binladen > >> >> >>>>>> did it but I also have questions...does that make me a cultist?
> >> >> >>>>> Because they aren't "asking questions". They believe in their > >> >> >>>>> proposition no matter what information is presented, no matter > >> >> >>>>> how > >> >> >>>>> many times their "questions" are answer, no matter how ludicrous > >> >> >>>>> they > >> >> >>>>> have to be to get to where they want to go. They aren't "looking > >> >> >>>>> into" anything. They have a faith position they'll defend > >> >> >>>>> against > >> >> >>>>> anything that threatens it.
> >> >> >>>>> Including attacking anybody who questions *them*. They *hate* > >> >> >>>>> being > >> >> >>>>> questioned. I know, I've run into them many times online. They > >> >> >>>>> react > >> >> >>>>> with more hostility, faster than any theist troll. It's > >> >> >>>>> really... > >> >> >>>>> amazing.
> >> >> >>>>> Not to mention, the proposition is ludicrous on its face. If our > >> >> >>>>> government or elements within are capable of conspiracy on that > >> >> >>>>> scale, you can't know anything.
> >> >> >>>> Just because someone answers a question doesn't mean that answer > >> >> >>>> is > >> >> >>>> true. And you can't stand people from questioning 911 and you > >> >> >>>> call > >> >> >>>> anyone who does a "kook" or a "cultist" so isn't that just as > >> >> >>>> bad?
> >> >> >>>They're not questioning Seon. They have a belief they are > >> >> >>>determined > >> >> >>>to > >> >> >>>confirm. And nothing will get in their way. They have The Answer > >> >> >>>and > >> >> >>>anybody who disagrees is lying.
> >> >> >>>It's a cult. Shrug.
> >> >> >>>> I encourage people from asking questions, even if they are > >> >> >>>> stupid. > >> >> >>>> We > >> >> >>>> need to so we can be sure what is going on and force people to > >> >> >>>> investigate 911 for themselves. Plus isn't it a democracy anyway?
> >> >> >>>Being a democracy doesn't qualify anybody to investigate > >> >> >>>everything. > >> >> >>>*I* > >> >> >>>don't the time to go back to school, spend years in multiple > >> >> >>>disciplines, work in the fields for years, and gain the experience, > >> >> >>>credentials, and expertise necessary to truly *investigate* this > >> >> >>>matter.
> >> >> >> The problem is that when there are questions that aren't answered > >> >> >> satisfactorily, people make up their own answers. And if they are > >> >> >> eventually answered, it is too late to change their minds.
> >> >> > I've read big chunks of what the experts had to say. There *are* a > >> >> > lot > >> >> > of > >> >> > satisfactory answers.
> >> >> > Truthers don't generally read any of that. It's "all lies" of > >> >> > course. > >> >> > Because they, and they alone, know... The Truth...
> >> >> The trouble is even the experts don't know exactly how WTC7 fell.
> >> >> > -- > >> >> > Mark K. Bilbo > >> >> > EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 > >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> > "If the Bible proves that God exists then comic books prove > >> >> > the existence of Superman."
> >> > If they don't know exactly..
> >> > They have a REAL GOOD idea why, good enough that very few have any > >> > "questions".
> >> But the NIST report doesn't really debunk Barry Jennings testimony...
> >> > -- > >> > BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> > -- > > BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
For fuck sake's Seon, how many times will you ignore that buildings will make amazingly loud noises when they suffer structural damage? Sounds that some people will call "explosions", just as some people called the pipes banging in the building I used to work at, explosions.
I think you're back on those pills you found on the sidewalk, aren't you? -- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> >> >> >> >> >> The 911 "truther" cultloons continue to spew their frothingly > >> >> >> >> >> insane > >> >> >> >> >> cult copnspiracy lunacy, trying to pretend that the Bush > >> >> >> >> >> regime's > >> >> >> >> >> crimes against humanity and treason against America are worse > >> >> >> >> >> than > >> >> >> >> >> they actually were -- as if the Christanic terrorists' crimes > >> >> >> >> >> weren't > >> >> >> >> >> bad enough.
> >> >> >> >> >> --- > >> >> >> >> >> Does belief in astrology cause insanity? > >> >> >> >> >> http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm > >> >> >> >> >> The Holy Eucharist: Swallow the Leader. -- Kagin
> >> >> >> >> > The faith of many in the cult remains strong, waiting for the > >> >> >> >> > day, > >> >> >> >> > it > >> >> >> >> > all "breaks open", and the "truth" finally comes out. Darth > >> >> >> >> > Cheney > >> >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> >> > his apprentice Darth Bush are led off to jail in shackles, and > >> >> >> >> > sent > >> >> >> >> > away > >> >> >> >> > to rot.
> >> >> >> >> > It's almost 9 years, yet they still cling to the hope it's all > >> >> >> >> > going > >> >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> >> > happen. But Christians still think Jesus is coming back, so > >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> > 911 > >> >> >> >> > kooks have a long way to go.
> >> >> >> >> Why is asking questions a "cult?" and it's not blind faith. How > >> >> >> >> is > >> >> >> >> it > >> >> >> >> any > >> >> >> >> different from someone who believes the official version without > >> >> >> >> questioning > >> >> >> >> it or even looking into it? I believe Binladen did it but I also > >> >> >> >> have > >> >> >> >> questions...does that make me a cultist?
> >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> >> >> >> > How many times do the same idiotic "questions" have to be > >> >> >> > answered? > >> >> >> > How > >> >> >> > many? It's hilarious. What some of the "cultloons" don't seem to > >> >> >> > understand is that a certain number of people don't see reality. > >> >> >> > They > >> >> >> > just don't, they see it in an altered way. The problem with the > >> >> >> > kooks > >> >> >> > is > >> >> >> > they ignore all the other evidence, and focus on one person > >> >> >> > claiming > >> >> >> > something that flies in the face of overwhelming evidence that it > >> >> >> > never > >> >> >> > happened, or happened in a totally different way. I have seen > >> >> >> > this > >> >> >> > happen personally quite a few times. People give descriptions of > >> >> >> > people, > >> >> >> > clothing, etc, and it's totally WRONG. This was proven by > >> >> >> > watching > >> >> >> > security videos. Sometimes, they don't even get the race of the > >> >> >> > person > >> >> >> > correct, and were adamant in their claims, until they saw the > >> >> >> > videos. > >> >> >> > Ooops.
> >> >> >> > But really, what questions do you have at this point? What could > >> >> >> > possibly not been answered, many times by now? > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> It's not just questions, we know that the Taliban were funded and > >> >> >> trained > >> >> >> by > >> >> >> the CIA and MI6 when they were part of the mujahidin and Binladen > >> >> >> was > >> >> >> a > >> >> >> CIA > >> >> >> ascent > >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahideen#US.2C_Pakistani_and_other_fin...,
> >> >> > So what?
> >> >> Binladen was a CIA ascent, how do we know he still isn't?
> >> > Are you having questions about the building collapses, or spook > >> > operations from years before? Both?
> >> >> Apart from the fact that a known terrorist was treated at a US > >> >> hospital > >> >> who > >> >> murdered innocent Americans, what did Binladen and the CIA agent > >> >> discuss?
> >> > So, the CIA agent set it all up?
> >> No I can't say what the CIA agent and Binladen talked about, that is pure > >> speculation.
> > Speculation is the 911 truther's main source of nutrition.
> Exactly they look at one strange thing like that happening and then > speculate on what could have happened.
> >> >> They do when people allege that Bush threatened to arrest any FBI > >> >> agent > >> >> who > >> >> tried to investigate the Binladens. Was he lying? Maybe, but we also > >> >> have > >> >> Gregg Palset.
> >> > The Bin Laden family isn't even suspected of anything, just Osama, so > >> > that's meaningless, even if true..
> >> But isn't Osama still part of the Binladen family?
> > From what I've read, they pretty much disowned him, as of 9/11/2001.
> >> >> We don't know but why didn't Bush go after Binladenw hen he could? > >> >> Clinton > >> >> made Binladen his number one priority.
> >> > When could he?
> >> When he realized he was getting so many warnings from different sources?
> >> Plus Binladen did declare holly war on America long before 911.
> > Holly war? Jeezus Seon. Is HOLY too hard for you to spell? There > > are/were finite resources, and he couldn't drop everything to go after > > him.
> But Binladen did bomb the Cole, why didn't Bush go after him the way Clinton > did? Because he was an idiot? Oh...
> >> >> >> And we know that false flag attacks have been planned before, the > >> >> >> Military > >> >> >> actually wanted to blow up planes and blame them on Cuba > >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
> >> >> > Planned. But how does that connect with 911?
> >> >> It shows that the Military was willing to murder innocent American's > >> >> to > >> >> launch a war in the past, how do we know things haven't changed?
> >> > Making a connection from a plan to 911, is a big jump, even for you. > >> > The > >> > military plans all kinds of stuff all the time, and always has. Most of > >> > them are no more then simply fantasy scenarios, kind of a way to think > >> > of new ways to do things. Most are flops.
> >> But it shows that the Military was willing to carry a false flag attack > >> out.
> > Willing? How do you figure that? You really have no idea how the > > military works, do you?
> It is supposed to protect your country but the Northwood documents show they > are some traitors willing to murder innocent civilians...some.
Again, you don't understand how much of the real world works. That's obvious from many of your posts.
> >> >> >> We know the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened, well the second > >> >> >> one > >> >> >> anyway, which was used to excel more troops into Vietnam > >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_tonkin_incident
> >> >> > Again, how does something that happened in the 60's connect to 2001? > >> >> > Making the jump here, as is common with....you know.
> >> >> It shows that governments lie to send a country into war. Look at the > >> >> whole > >> >> WMD thing. If everything Bush said was a lie then how do we know he > >> >> didn't > >> >> lie about what
> >>> > "Mark K Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message > >>> > news:8b395uFvrgU27@mid.individual.net... > >>> >> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:26:57 -0700, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> >>> >>> On 25 Jul 2010 16:20:03 GMT, Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo> > >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>> The 911 "truther" cultloons continue to spew their > >>> >>>>>>>>> frothingly insane cult copnspiracy lunacy, trying to pretend > >>> >>>>>>>>> that the Bush regime's crimes against humanity and treason > >>> >>>>>>>>> against America are > >>> >>>>>>>>> worse than they actually were -- as if the Christanic > >>> >>>>>>>>> terrorists' crimes weren't bad enough.
> >>> >>>>>>>>> --- > >>> >>>>>>>>> Does belief in astrology cause insanity? > >>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.skeptictank.org/edm.htm > >>> >>>>>>>>> The Holy Eucharist: Swallow the Leader. -- Kagin
> >>> >>>>>>>> The faith of many in the cult remains strong, waiting for the > >>> >>>>>>>> day, it all "breaks open", and the "truth" finally comes out. > >>> >>>>>>>> Darth Cheney and his apprentice Darth Bush are led off to > >>> >>>>>>>> jail in > >>> >>>>>>>> shackles, and sent away to rot.
> >>> >>>>>>>> It's almost 9 years, yet they still cling to the hope it's > >>> >>>>>>>> all going to happen. But Christians still think Jesus is > >>> >>>>>>>> coming back, > >>> >>>>>>>> so the 911 kooks have a long way to go.
> >>> >>>>>>> Why is asking questions a "cult?" and it's not blind faith. > >>> >>>>>>> How is > >>> >>>>>>> it any different from someone who believes the official > >>> >>>>>>> version without questioning it or even looking into it? I > >>> >>>>>>> believe Binladen > >>> >>>>>>> did it but I also have questions...does that make me a > >>> >>>>>>> cultist?
> >>> >>>>>> Because they aren't "asking questions". They believe in their > >>> >>>>>> proposition no matter what information is presented, no matter > >>> >>>>>> how many times their "questions" are answer, no matter how > >>> >>>>>> ludicrous they have to be to get to where they want to go. They > >>> >>>>>> aren't "looking into" anything. They have a faith position > >>> >>>>>> they'll defend against anything that threatens it.
> >>> >>>>>> Including attacking anybody who questions *them*. They *hate* > >>> >>>>>> being > >>> >>>>>> questioned. I know, I've run into them many times online. They > >>> >>>>>> react with more hostility, faster than any theist troll. It's > >>> >>>>>> really... amazing.
> >>> >>>>>> Not to mention, the proposition is ludicrous on its face. If > >>> >>>>>> our government or elements within are capable of conspiracy on > >>> >>>>>> that scale, you can't know anything.
> >>> >>>>> Just because someone answers a question doesn't mean that answer > >>> >>>>> is true. And you can't stand people from questioning 911 and you > >>> >>>>> call anyone who does a "kook" or a "cultist" so isn't that just > >>> >>>>> as bad?
> >>> >>>>They're not questioning Seon. They have a belief they are > >>> >>>>determined to confirm. And nothing will get in their way. They > >>> >>>>have The Answer and anybody who disagrees is lying.
> >>> >>>>It's a cult. Shrug.
> >>> >>>>> I encourage people from asking questions, even if they are > >>> >>>>> stupid. We need to so we can be sure what is going on and force > >>> >>>>> people to investigate 911 for themselves. Plus isn't it a > >>> >>>>> democracy anyway?
> >>> >>>>Being a democracy doesn't qualify anybody to investigate > >>> >>>>everything. *I* don't the time to go back to school, spend years > >>> >>>>in multiple disciplines, work in the fields for years, and gain > >>> >>>>the experience, credentials, and expertise necessary to truly > >>> >>>>*investigate* this matter.
> >>> >>> The problem is that when there are questions that aren't answered > >>> >>> satisfactorily, people make up their own answers. And if they are > >>> >>> eventually answered, it is too late to change their minds.
> >>> >> I've read big chunks of what the experts had to say. There *are* a > >>> >> lot of satisfactory answers.
> >>> >> Truthers don't generally read any of that. It's "all lies" of > >>> >> course. Because they, and they alone, know... The Truth...
> >>> > The trouble is even the experts don't know exactly how WTC7 fell.
> >>> You mean the report the NIST issued on WTC 7 doesn't exist? I did not > >>> know that. I had this weird idea that experts with experience and > >>> credentials have studied this event from one end to the other and > >>> issued reports with their conclusions.
> > Wow that's total disinfo. I never said WTC7 and the NIST report exist > > and not one conspiracy theorist has suggested they don't.
> No, Seon. Yeah, I was being sarcastic but you are flat wrong when you say > "the experts don't know". While it's true history cannot be known > absolutely (sans time travel), experts who have actual knowledge *did* > put forth explanation based on study.
> There's just no "there" there. The truthers are playing a variant of "god > of the gaps". Since we cannot know history with absolute certainty, > there's *always* room to shove uncertainty and a belief system. Well, > room for some. A determined some.
> As best it is possible to know, we do know. And the only people I see > "questioning" are inexperienced lay people who have some odd agenda to > grind.
Nicely put! But I'm sure Seon will keep having "questions". -- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> >>> "GovShill" <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>> news:1b20d9c5-0301-4d52- > bc72-5f92a1d25...@f20g2000pro.googlegroups.com... > >>> > On Jul 26, 10:01 am, "Seon" <s...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >>> >> I have when you disagree with them your a shill or a Jew or > >>> >> whatever group > >>> >> they hate. The trouble is the "experts" don't answer all the > >>> >> questions, > >>> >> sure > >>> >> the 911 commission helped and i think it did good work dispelling > >>> >> some of > >>> >> the myths and the NIST report helps as well but I still don't know > >>> >> how WTC7 > >>> >> exactly fell.
> >>> > Why is *exactly* how it fell important to you?
> >>> What are you doing in this neck of the woods? The way it fell will > >>> show why > >>> it fell.
> >> It fell because it was too structurally compromised by the fire and > >> weight of debris to remain standing.
> > Is that what the NIST report said?
> How 'bout you tell us?
You're gonna make his head spin! -- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
Where did they go? Nowhere, there are pics of them online. Where did you think they went? Transported aboard the Klingon battle cruiser in sync orbit over D.C. that sunny day?
Maths? Are you talking about "meth"?
What "pentalawn stuff" are you babbling about, Mikey?
Stop buying the kookpages, Mikey. You'll turn into Seon if you aren't careful. That would be a damn shame.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! -- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> In article <pan.2010.07.26.15.36...@dasteem.invalid>, > l...@dasteem.invalid says... >> Responding to BDK:
>> [...] >> >> BTW: What happened to those wings then? Anybody found them yet?
>> >> Oh, right. They "just evaporated" didn't they. %)
>> > No, they followed into the hole, as has always been claimed. Who >> > claimed they "evaporated"? Maybe people on drugs or that should be on >> > drugs?
> Where did they go? Nowhere, there are pics of them online. Where did you > think they went? Transported aboard the Klingon battle cruiser in sync > orbit over D.C. that sunny day?
> Maths? Are you talking about "meth"?
> What "pentalawn stuff" are you babbling about, Mikey?
> Stop buying the kookpages, Mikey. You'll turn into Seon if you aren't > careful. That would be a damn shame.
> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Er, /you/ made the claims here, and you don't get a legitimate bwahaha until you quit with the kook squid-ink escape manouver stuff, pretending you don't know what the questions are, and answer them. You, of all people, should know better than that.
So, go research "pentalawn", and come back and explain how its all wrong.
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:19:20 +0000, ScienceWins wrote: > Mark K Bilbo <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:01:58 +1000, Seon wrote: >>> And neither do truthers which is why I want a independent >>> investigation. >>That was done some years ago.
> Not legitimately, it wasn't. The Bush regime allowed Saudi family > terrorists to escape being interrogated even though aircraft were > grounded for actual American citizens. There was never any investigation > in to the events of 911 nor the aftermath, it was whitewashed.
No, no, not the political side, the technical size. The NIST reports about the buildings, planes, and all is something wholly other than the political mess.
In which Saudi Arabia was *so* redacted...
-- Mark K. Bilbo EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion #1423 ------------------------------------------------------------ "If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to believe in him, then he should know what would prove his existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason to believe in him."
> >> > No, they followed into the hole, as has always been claimed. Who > >> > claimed they "evaporated"? Maybe people on drugs or that should be on > >> > drugs?
> >> Oh! And debunk the pentalawn stuff too! (Heh!)
> > Where did they go? Nowhere, there are pics of them online. Where did you > > think they went? Transported aboard the Klingon battle cruiser in sync > > orbit over D.C. that sunny day?
> > Maths? Are you talking about "meth"?
> > What "pentalawn stuff" are you babbling about, Mikey?
> > Stop buying the kookpages, Mikey. You'll turn into Seon if you aren't > > careful. That would be a damn shame.
> > BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> Er, /you/ made the claims here, and you don't get a legitimate bwahaha > until you quit with the kook squid-ink escape manouver stuff, pretending > you don't know what the questions are, and answer them. You, of all > people, should know better than that.
> So, go research "pentalawn", and come back and explain how its all wrong.
> Waiting... :)
Are you fucking kidding me? Really? You really believe something "special" happened at the pentagon and the lawn wasn't burned because of it?
Honestly, I thought that shit was too stupid for all but the biggest loons to take seriously. I guess either you're a bigger loon than I thought. I had forgotten all about it. Really fucking dumb shit, even for kooks to swallow, but apparently you do. So why do you think the lawn wasn't substantially burned?
Because? Because a "missile" hit the pentagon? Because a bomb went off in the pentagon? And there was no plane that hit it?
Or could it just be not much of the lawn was damaged because the plane didn't really hit the lawn?
Please take a step back from the edge Mikey.
The edge of total kooktardery.
You wouldn't, or maybe at this point, shouldn't want to live that way.
-- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
>> >> > No, they followed into the hole, as has always been claimed. Who >> >> > claimed they "evaporated"? Maybe people on drugs or that should be >> >> > on >> >> > drugs?
>> >> Oh! And debunk the pentalawn stuff too! (Heh!)
>> > Where did they go? Nowhere, there are pics of them online. Where did >> > you >> > think they went? Transported aboard the Klingon battle cruiser in sync >> > orbit over D.C. that sunny day?
>> > Maths? Are you talking about "meth"?
>> > What "pentalawn stuff" are you babbling about, Mikey?
>> > Stop buying the kookpages, Mikey. You'll turn into Seon if you aren't >> > careful. That would be a damn shame.
Um all the articles I posted in this thread have been from the mainstream media. Ok so I posted one from prison planet but that was a interview and it happened, you can even listen to it somewhere.
>> >> > No, they followed into the hole, as has always been claimed. Who >> >> > claimed they "evaporated"? Maybe people on drugs or that should be >> >> > on drugs?
>> >> Oh! And debunk the pentalawn stuff too! (Heh!)
>> > Where did they go? Nowhere, there are pics of them online. Where did >> > you think they went? Transported aboard the Klingon battle cruiser in >> > sync orbit over D.C. that sunny day?
>> > Maths? Are you talking about "meth"?
>> > What "pentalawn stuff" are you babbling about, Mikey?
>> > Stop buying the kookpages, Mikey. You'll turn into Seon if you aren't >> > careful. That would be a damn shame.
>> > BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>> Er, /you/ made the claims here, and you don't get a legitimate bwahaha >> until you quit with the kook squid-ink escape manouver stuff, >> pretending you don't know what the questions are, and answer them. You, >> of all people, should know better than that.
>> So, go research "pentalawn", and come back and explain how its all >> wrong.
>> Waiting... :)
> Are you fucking kidding me? Really? You really believe something > "special" happened at the pentagon and the lawn wasn't burned because of > it?
> Honestly, I thought that shit was too stupid for all but the biggest > loons to take seriously. I guess either
WHOAH THERE NEDDY!
/You/ made the claims here, not me. All I'm doing it taking the piss (a popular pastime around these parts, I'm sure you'll agree) to see if you can back 'em up, which its looking as if we've found /your/ favorite hobbyhorse here, not mine.
I "believe" /nothing/ here, including the "sinks in shallow water" official stuff that you appear to be so enamoured of.
Put up, or...? %)
(So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
> >> >> > No, they followed into the hole, as has always been claimed. Who > >> >> > claimed they "evaporated"? Maybe people on drugs or that should be > >> >> > on drugs?
> >> >> Oh! And debunk the pentalawn stuff too! (Heh!)
> >> > Where did they go? Nowhere, there are pics of them online. Where did > >> > you think they went? Transported aboard the Klingon battle cruiser in > >> > sync orbit over D.C. that sunny day?
> >> > Maths? Are you talking about "meth"?
> >> > What "pentalawn stuff" are you babbling about, Mikey?
> >> > Stop buying the kookpages, Mikey. You'll turn into Seon if you aren't > >> > careful. That would be a damn shame.
> >> > BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> >> Er, /you/ made the claims here, and you don't get a legitimate bwahaha > >> until you quit with the kook squid-ink escape manouver stuff, > >> pretending you don't know what the questions are, and answer them. You, > >> of all people, should know better than that.
> >> So, go research "pentalawn", and come back and explain how its all > >> wrong.
> >> Waiting... :)
> > Are you fucking kidding me? Really? You really believe something > > "special" happened at the pentagon and the lawn wasn't burned because of > > it?
> > Honestly, I thought that shit was too stupid for all but the biggest > > loons to take seriously. I guess either
> WHOAH THERE NEDDY!
> /You/ made the claims here, not me.
You're the one asking about the engines and nonsense like that when there's plenty of pics of them out there, Mikey.
> All I'm doing it taking the piss (a > popular pastime around these parts, I'm sure you'll agree) to see if you > can back 'em up, which its looking as if we've found /your/ favorite > hobbyhorse here, not mine.
WTF?
> I "believe" /nothing/ here, including the "sinks in shallow water" > official stuff that you appear to be so enamoured of.
Sinks in shallow water? It's alcohol, isn't it? Stop.
> Put up, or...? %)
> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be honest, I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of kookpages. But sadly, not all of them are.
You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with. -- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
>> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
> Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be honest, > I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of kookpages. But > sadly, not all of them are.
> You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.
Oops! The classic duck'n'dodge technique there!
C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.
All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/ claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target material I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. Nobody is claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that finger about, and GET ON WITH IT!
You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?
As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?
> [...] > >> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
> > Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be honest, > > I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of kookpages. But > > sadly, not all of them are.
> > You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.
> Oops! The classic duck'n'dodge technique there!
Que?
> C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.
Que?
> All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/ > claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target material > I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. Nobody is > claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that finger about, and > GET ON WITH IT!
Que pasa?
> You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?
Que?
> As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?
Que?
> That'd be just plain kooky, wouldn't it? ;)
Keep on drinkin' the kook aid...
-- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> In article <pan.2010.07.28.21.09...@dasteem.invalid>, > l...@dasteem.invalid says... >> Responding to BDK:
>> [...] >> >> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
>> > Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be >> > honest, I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of >> > kookpages. But sadly, not all of them are.
>> > You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.
>> Oops! The classic duck'n'dodge technique there!
> Que?
>> C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.
> Que?
>> All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/ >> claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target material >> I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. Nobody is >> claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that finger about, >> and GET ON WITH IT!
> Que pasa?
>> You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?
> Que?
>> As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?
> Que?
>> That'd be just plain kooky, wouldn't it? ;)
> Keep on drinkin' the kook aid...
C'MAH DUDE! Your letting the side down!
I just threw you a straight ball, and you MISSED IT!
Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!
(Es sobre tiempo que usted paró el hacer tanto de ruido sobre kooks si usted no pueda hace una pausa sus propias demandas. Esto apenas le hace a otro kook, y le reduce al mismo nivel que texto-a-rectoviento los generadores como sus amigos en línea que intentamos sin mencionar la compañía descortesa.)
> > In article <pan.2010.07.28.21.09...@dasteem.invalid>, > > l...@dasteem.invalid says... > >> Responding to BDK:
> >> [...] > >> >> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
> >> > Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be > >> > honest, I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of > >> > kookpages. But sadly, not all of them are.
> >> > You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.
> >> Oops! The classic duck'n'dodge technique there!
> > Que?
> >> C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.
> > Que?
> >> All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/ > >> claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target material > >> I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. Nobody is > >> claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that finger about, > >> and GET ON WITH IT!
> > Que pasa?
> >> You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?
> > Que?
> >> As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?
> > Que?
> >> That'd be just plain kooky, wouldn't it? ;)
> > Keep on drinkin' the kook aid...
> C'MAH DUDE! Your letting the side down!
> I just threw you a straight ball, and you MISSED IT!
Was I at bat?
> Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!
When I think about Pentalawn, I just laugh.
> (Es sobre tiempo que usted paró el hacer tanto de ruido sobre kooks si > usted no pueda hace una pausa sus propias demandas. Esto apenas le hace a > otro kook, y le reduce al mismo nivel que texto-a-rectoviento los > generadores como sus amigos en línea que intentamos sin mencionar la > compañía descortesa.)
No habla Espanol... -- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> In article <pan.2010.07.29.09.55...@dasteem.invalid>, > l...@dasteem.invalid says... >> Responding to BDK:
>> > In article <pan.2010.07.28.21.09...@dasteem.invalid>, >> > l...@dasteem.invalid says... >> >> Responding to BDK:
>> >> [...] >> >> >> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
>> >> > Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be >> >> > honest, I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of >> >> > kookpages. But sadly, not all of them are.
>> >> > You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.
>> >> Oops! The classic duck'n'dodge technique there!
>> > Que?
>> >> C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.
>> > Que?
>> >> All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/ >> >> claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target >> >> material I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. >> >> Nobody is claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that >> >> finger about, and GET ON WITH IT!
>> > Que pasa?
>> >> You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?
>> > Que?
>> >> As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?
>> > Que?
>> >> That'd be just plain kooky, wouldn't it? ;)
>> > Keep on drinkin' the kook aid...
>> C'MAH DUDE! Your letting the side down!
>> I just threw you a straight ball, and you MISSED IT!
> Was I at bat?
Didn't you get the memo?
>> Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!
> When I think about Pentalawn, I just laugh.
You're supposed to. But then you're supposed to /explain why/.
>> (Es sobre tiempo que usted paró el hacer tanto de ruido sobre kooks si >> usted no pueda hace una pausa sus propias demandas. Esto apenas le hace >> a otro kook, y le reduce al mismo nivel que texto-a-rectoviento los >> generadores como sus amigos en lÃnea que intentamos sin mencionar la >> compañÃa descortesa.)
> > In article <pan.2010.07.29.09.55...@dasteem.invalid>, > > l...@dasteem.invalid says... > >> Responding to BDK:
> >> > In article <pan.2010.07.28.21.09...@dasteem.invalid>, > >> > l...@dasteem.invalid says... > >> >> Responding to BDK:
> >> >> [...] > >> >> >> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
> >> >> > Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be > >> >> > honest, I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of > >> >> > kookpages. But sadly, not all of them are.
> >> >> > You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.
> >> >> Oops! The classic duck'n'dodge technique there!
> >> > Que?
> >> >> C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.
> >> > Que?
> >> >> All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/ > >> >> claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target > >> >> material I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. > >> >> Nobody is claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that > >> >> finger about, and GET ON WITH IT!
> >> > Que pasa?
> >> >> You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?
> >> > Que?
> >> >> As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?
> >> > Que?
> >> >> That'd be just plain kooky, wouldn't it? ;)
> >> > Keep on drinkin' the kook aid...
> >> C'MAH DUDE! Your letting the side down!
> >> I just threw you a straight ball, and you MISSED IT!
> > Was I at bat?
> Didn't you get the memo?
Nope, I don't subscribe to any of the troofer newsletters.
> >> Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!
> > When I think about Pentalawn, I just laugh.
> You're supposed to. But then you're supposed to /explain why/.
Really? Why bother? It's so obvious, anyone but a true believer in the 911 cult should know why.
> >> (Es sobre tiempo que usted parÃ=3F³ el hacer tanto de ruido sobre kooks si > >> usted no pueda hace una pausa sus propias demandas. Esto apenas le hace > >> a otro kook, y le reduce al mismo nivel que texto-a-rectoviento los > >> generadores como sus amigos en lÃ=3FÂnea que intentamos sin mencionar la > >> compaÃ=3F±Ã=3FÂa descortesa.)
> > No habla Espanol...
> Eso es muy fácil para que usted diga!
No habla Espaol. No habla Ingles. No habla de Kookinese!
-- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> In article <pan.2010.07.29.17.52...@dasteem.invalid>, > l...@dasteem.invalid says... >> Responding to BDK:
>> > In article <pan.2010.07.29.09.55...@dasteem.invalid>, >> > l...@dasteem.invalid says... >> >> Responding to BDK:
>> >> > In article <pan.2010.07.28.21.09...@dasteem.invalid>, >> >> > l...@dasteem.invalid says... >> >> >> Responding to BDK:
>> >> >> [...] >> >> >> >> (So what /is/ wrong with the pentalawn stuff then? Smirk!)
>> >> >> > Other than being totally nonsensical? Gosh, I don't know. To be >> >> >> > honest, I think some of the pentalawn pages are parodies of >> >> >> > kookpages. But sadly, not all of them are.
>> >> >> > You seem to be too drunk on the Kooky Kook Aid to continue with.
>> >> >> Oops! The classic duck'n'dodge technique there!
>> >> > Que?
>> >> >> C'mahn dude! We've done this one before.
>> >> > Que?
>> >> >> All you need to do is present a reasonable verification for /your/ >> >> >> claims, and point out the basic flaws in the provided target >> >> >> material I've provided you with, that being the pendalawn stuff. >> >> >> Nobody is claiming any of this stuff is true, so quit waving that >> >> >> finger about, and GET ON WITH IT!
>> >> > Que pasa?
>> >> >> You /do have/ a /rational/ trashing ready for such stuff, yes?
>> >> > Que?
>> >> >> As in, you are not expecting to be accepted at face value are you?
>> >> > Que?
>> >> >> That'd be just plain kooky, wouldn't it? ;)
>> >> > Keep on drinkin' the kook aid...
>> >> C'MAH DUDE! Your letting the side down!
>> >> I just threw you a straight ball, and you MISSED IT!
>> > Was I at bat?
>> Didn't you get the memo?
> Nope, I don't subscribe to any of the troofer newsletters.
>> >> Just remember, your name is not LARDNOB, or George. Think man! THINK!
>> > When I think about Pentalawn, I just laugh.
>> You're supposed to. But then you're supposed to /explain why/.
> Really? Why bother? It's so obvious, anyone but a true believer in the > 911 cult should know why.
You mean the cult where if anyone dares question the official story even though they say flight 77 hit the pentagon and that WTC 1 and 2 were brought down because a freakin plane flew into them they are called a "kook" ie un believer or heratic? Or you "give up" on them? I am staying well away from that cult. But then I'm staying away from the cult where people who believe the official story like I do are called shills, Jews, reptilians, Bush supporters, Jesuites um did I miss anything?