wonderfully, Sovereign grace requires that God does the giving while man does the receiving, apart from works. Eph. 2:8,9
on this basis alone, God is pleased to act in unmerited favor towards hardened sinner's simply because it's His good pleasure to do so ( Eph. 1:3-14 ) while the objects of His pardon are all together passive, contributing nothing to His grace, lest man should boast.
when Jesus broached the subject of unconditional election in Luke Chapter 4, His hearers became " enraged " and tried to throw Him over a cliff.
in like manner, when the non-elect hear of any doctrine that doesn't give them at least part of the glory, such as God's plan of election according to grace... unconditional election... they too become enraged, and would rather send the preachers of free grace over a cliff, along with the Savior they pretend to worship...
just as the Law keeping Jews in the synagogue at Nazareth.
huh, so devoted were they that they simply lost sight of " Thou shalt not kill " when they took Jesus to throw Him over a cliff.
so devoted to will worship are these today, that they forget all that is ' holy ' of which they pretend to preach, and would rather murder Christ and His salvation by grace followers.
their contention against grace shows they've not received grace.
Old man,you still did not explain to us what an Elect is? and why would a person be an Elect and the next one not? Since all the Elects were choosen before they were born why did Christ had to die on the cross since he could not save those that are not elects?? Your claiming that Christ cannot save a person that wants Salvation but was not choosen, why? Did you know that you are not suppose to judge others?? Did you know that Jesus said in Matt.5:22 ,but whosoever shall say thou fool, is in danger of hell fire? thou fool means a Godless person with no chance of Salvation, it seems to me thats what your doing, in danger of hellfire means you may not be forgiven, if you did not know, you do now, your in danger old man.
> wonderfully, Sovereign grace requires that God does the giving > while man does the receiving, apart from works. Eph. 2:8,9
> on this basis alone, God is pleased to act in unmerited favor > towards hardened sinner's simply because it's His good pleasure to do > so ( Eph. 1:3-14 ) while the objects of His pardon are all together > passive, contributing nothing to His grace, lest man should boast.
> when Jesus broached the subject of unconditional election in Luke > Chapter 4, His hearers became " enraged " and tried to throw Him over > a cliff.
> in like manner, when the non-elect hear of any doctrine that doesn't > give them at least part of the glory, such as God's plan of election > according to grace... unconditional election... they too become > enraged, and would rather send the preachers of free grace over a > cliff, along with the Savior they pretend to worship...
> just as the Law keeping Jews in the synagogue at Nazareth.
> huh, so devoted were they that they simply lost sight of " Thou > shalt not kill " when they took Jesus to throw Him over a cliff.
> so devoted to will worship are these today, that they forget all > that is ' holy ' of which they pretend to preach, and would rather > murder Christ and His salvation by grace followers.
> their contention against grace shows they've not received grace.
cdum wrote: > Old man,you still did not explain to us what an Elect is? and why would a person be an Elect and > the next one not? > Since all the Elects were choosen before they were born why did Christ had to die on the cross > since he could not save those that are not elects?? > Your claiming that Christ cannot save a person that wants Salvation but was not choosen, why? Did > you know that you are not suppose to judge others?? > Did you know that Jesus said in Matt.5:22 ,but whosoever shall say thou fool, is in danger of hell > fire? thou fool means a Godless person with no chance of Salvation, it seems to me thats what your > doing, in danger of hellfire means you may not be forgiven, if you did not know, you do now, your in > danger old man.
Ro 9:20 - Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
> > wonderfully, Sovereign grace requires that God does the giving > > while man does the receiving, apart from works. Eph. 2:8,9
> > on this basis alone, God is pleased to act in unmerited favor > > towards hardened sinner's simply because it's His good pleasure to do > > so ( Eph. 1:3-14 ) while the objects of His pardon are all together > > passive, contributing nothing to His grace, lest man should boast.
> > when Jesus broached the subject of unconditional election in Luke > > Chapter 4, His hearers became " enraged " and tried to throw Him over > > a cliff.
> > in like manner, when the non-elect hear of any doctrine that doesn't > > give them at least part of the glory, such as God's plan of election > > according to grace... unconditional election... they too become > > enraged, and would rather send the preachers of free grace over a > > cliff, along with the Savior they pretend to worship...
> > just as the Law keeping Jews in the synagogue at Nazareth.
> > huh, so devoted were they that they simply lost sight of " Thou > > shalt not kill " when they took Jesus to throw Him over a cliff.
> > so devoted to will worship are these today, that they forget all > > that is ' holy ' of which they pretend to preach, and would rather > > murder Christ and His salvation by grace followers.
> > their contention against grace shows they've not received grace.
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