Message from discussion The fear of grace... or... " I don't trust God's grace; I trust my decision making process "

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Subject: The fear of grace... or... " I don't trust God's grace; I trust my decision making process "
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:14:39 -0500
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  " who were born... not of the will of man, but of God "
Joh. 1:12,13

   speaking out for the sovereignty of man, will worshipers have a
fear of grace... not trusting in Christ alone to save to the uttermost
but rather, to blend their own decision making process in with what
God gives as a free gift.

  this way they are assured in their own mind that God is capable of
saving. they believe and preach He is impotent to save otherwise .

  these fail to see that believing in Jesus Christ unto salvation is
the result of salvation and not the cause... as in Acts 13:48

  " and as many as were appointed to eternal life, believed. "

  " lest man should boast " 

  salvation is His doing.  Eph. 1:3-14  " He chose us " and not 
" we chose ourselves " as in will worship thinking.

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  will worship forms the core of modern evangelism in those circles
where the sovereignty of man doctrines flourish.  will worship is at
the core of Pentecostalism... that's why those who don't believe in
tongues, signs and wonders, falling over backwards, dreams and visions
and the like, get along so well with those who do.

  the two walk together because they are agreed.

  its plain to see that where man is the object of the boast, grace
has not taken place.

  "   there has also come to be at the present time a remnant
according to [God's] gracious choice.

  But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works,
otherwise grace is no longer grace. "  Ro.11:5,6