The elect love unconditional election Lk. 4:25-27... Will worshipers hate it. Lk. 4:28-30 - alt.talk.creationism

Message from discussion The elect love unconditional election Lk. 4:25-27... Will worshipers hate it. Lk. 4:28-30

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More options Dec 15 2006, 11:49 am

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From: "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com>

Date: 15 Dec 2006 01:49:53 -0800

Local: Fri, Dec 15 2006 11:49 am

Subject: Re: The elect love unconditional election Lk. 4:25-27... Will worshipers hate it. Lk. 4:28-30

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cdum wrote:
> Old man,you still did not explain to us what an Elect is? and why would a person be an Elect and
> the next one not?
> Since all the Elects were choosen before they were born why did Christ had to die on the cross
> since he could not save those that are not elects??
> Your claiming that Christ cannot save a person that wants Salvation but was not choosen, why? Did
> you know that you are not suppose to judge others??
> Did you know that Jesus said in Matt.5:22 ,but whosoever shall say thou fool, is in danger of hell
> fire? thou fool means a Godless person with no chance of Salvation, it seems to me thats what your
> doing, in danger of hellfire means you may not be forgiven, if you did not know, you do now, your in
> danger old man.

Ro 9:20 - Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God?
Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it,
Why hast thou made me thus?

Jim

De Nile is not only
a river in Egypt

> "old man joe" <n...@home.com> wrote in message news:3utsn213u2mddvfqsjdhdkihud6rrmnfqi@4ax.com...

> > wonderfully, Sovereign grace requires that God does the giving
> > while man does the receiving, apart from works. Eph. 2:8,9

> > on this basis alone, God is pleased to act in unmerited favor
> > towards hardened sinner's simply because it's His good pleasure to do
> > so ( Eph. 1:3-14 ) while the objects of His pardon are all together
> > passive, contributing nothing to His grace, lest man should boast.

> > when Jesus broached the subject of unconditional election in Luke
> > Chapter 4, His hearers became " enraged " and tried to throw Him over
> > a cliff.

> > in like manner, when the non-elect hear of any doctrine that doesn't
> > give them at least part of the glory, such as God's plan of election
> > according to grace... unconditional election... they too become
> > enraged, and would rather send the preachers of free grace over a
> > cliff, along with the Savior they pretend to worship...

> > just as the Law keeping Jews in the synagogue at Nazareth.

> > huh, so devoted were they that they simply lost sight of " Thou
> > shalt not kill " when they took Jesus to throw Him over a cliff.

> > so devoted to will worship are these today, that they forget all
> > that is ' holy ' of which they pretend to preach, and would rather
> > murder Christ and His salvation by grace followers.

> > their contention against grace shows they've not received grace.

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