The elect love unconditional election Lk. 4:25-27... Will worshipers hate it. Lk. 4:28-30 - alt.talk.creationism

Message from discussion The elect love unconditional election Lk. 4:25-27... Will worshipers hate it. Lk. 4:28-30

cdum

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From: "cdum" <cdum...@telusplanet.net>

Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:57:58 GMT

Local: Wed, Dec 13 2006 7:57 am

Subject: Re: The elect love unconditional election Lk. 4:25-27... Will worshipers hate it. Lk. 4:28-30

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Old man,you still did not explain to us what an Elect is? and why would a person be an Elect and
the next one not?
Since all the Elects were choosen before they were born why did Christ had to die on the cross
since he could not save those that are not elects??
Your claiming that Christ cannot save a person that wants Salvation but was not choosen, why? Did
you know that you are not suppose to judge others??
Did you know that Jesus said in Matt.5:22 ,but whosoever shall say thou fool, is in danger of hell
fire? thou fool means a Godless person with no chance of Salvation, it seems to me thats what your
doing, in danger of hellfire means you may not be forgiven, if you did not know, you do now, your in
danger old man.

"old man joe" <n...@home.com> wrote in message news:3utsn213u2mddvfqsjdhdkihud6rrmnfqi@4ax.com...

> wonderfully, Sovereign grace requires that God does the giving
> while man does the receiving, apart from works. Eph. 2:8,9

> on this basis alone, God is pleased to act in unmerited favor
> towards hardened sinner's simply because it's His good pleasure to do
> so ( Eph. 1:3-14 ) while the objects of His pardon are all together
> passive, contributing nothing to His grace, lest man should boast.

> when Jesus broached the subject of unconditional election in Luke
> Chapter 4, His hearers became " enraged " and tried to throw Him over
> a cliff.

> in like manner, when the non-elect hear of any doctrine that doesn't
> give them at least part of the glory, such as God's plan of election
> according to grace... unconditional election... they too become
> enraged, and would rather send the preachers of free grace over a
> cliff, along with the Savior they pretend to worship...

> just as the Law keeping Jews in the synagogue at Nazareth.

> huh, so devoted were they that they simply lost sight of " Thou
> shalt not kill " when they took Jesus to throw Him over a cliff.

> so devoted to will worship are these today, that they forget all
> that is ' holy ' of which they pretend to preach, and would rather
> murder Christ and His salvation by grace followers.

> their contention against grace shows they've not received grace.

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